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	<title>Comments on: Absent Abortus</title>
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		<title>By: mjfan</title>
		<link>http://www.medhaps.com/2009/absent-abortus/comment-page-1/#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>mjfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, I&#039;m agree with most of it but I don&#039;t blame the young girl. She doesn&#039;t know better. I&#039;m much older than her and I don&#039;t even know how many weeks can survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, I&#8217;m agree with most of it but I don&#8217;t blame the young girl. She doesn&#8217;t know better. I&#8217;m much older than her and I don&#8217;t even know how many weeks can survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Roxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a nurse myself in L&amp;D.  I have seen many things happen that I don&#039;t like.  I have to say that this is a terrible story and I would have preferred it not even have gotten the attention it has on this page.  That being said, this whole scenario was wrong from the very beginning.  She was 23 weeks pregnant!  Babies can survive at that gestation, I have seen it personally!  Where was the counseling that this young woman should have received?  There are many wonderful agencies out there to help girls in just this situation.  As for the doctor and all the staff for that matter, I feel they should all have been charged with murder!  We do NOT throw babies away, we can&#039;t.  I&#039;m very saddened by this story and will certainly pray for the soul of the young woman who destroyed her baby and just let it die!  May God forgive her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a nurse myself in L&amp;D.  I have seen many things happen that I don&#8217;t like.  I have to say that this is a terrible story and I would have preferred it not even have gotten the attention it has on this page.  That being said, this whole scenario was wrong from the very beginning.  She was 23 weeks pregnant!  Babies can survive at that gestation, I have seen it personally!  Where was the counseling that this young woman should have received?  There are many wonderful agencies out there to help girls in just this situation.  As for the doctor and all the staff for that matter, I feel they should all have been charged with murder!  We do NOT throw babies away, we can&#8217;t.  I&#8217;m very saddened by this story and will certainly pray for the soul of the young woman who destroyed her baby and just let it die!  May God forgive her.</p>
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		<title>By: A Nurse</title>
		<link>http://www.medhaps.com/2009/absent-abortus/comment-page-1/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>A Nurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How have we come to this?  It is as easy as carrying out the trash. Take God out of the equation. Forget about not being ready to have a baby. You still have a human life thrown away in the trash. Our humanity went out in the trash as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How have we come to this?  It is as easy as carrying out the trash. Take God out of the equation. Forget about not being ready to have a baby. You still have a human life thrown away in the trash. Our humanity went out in the trash as well.</p>
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		<title>By: cheecochihuahua</title>
		<link>http://www.medhaps.com/2009/absent-abortus/comment-page-1/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>cheecochihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Horrible.  All 3 parties are murders. Someday God will dish out punishment. Didn&#039;t the young girl have any warning signs something was not legitimate?  Didn&#039;t the girl fear for her own life too after the staff thrown away a living infant.  Or thought she was too big to be placed in a dumpster.  If the baby wasn&#039;t wanted or the girl wasn&#039;t ready to be a Mother, please give someone else a chance to be proper parent.  Maybe a case of stupid is, stupid does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horrible.  All 3 parties are murders. Someday God will dish out punishment. Didn&#8217;t the young girl have any warning signs something was not legitimate?  Didn&#8217;t the girl fear for her own life too after the staff thrown away a living infant.  Or thought she was too big to be placed in a dumpster.  If the baby wasn&#8217;t wanted or the girl wasn&#8217;t ready to be a Mother, please give someone else a chance to be proper parent.  Maybe a case of stupid is, stupid does.</p>
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		<title>By: wha</title>
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		<dc:creator>wha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care how young you are.  How can you see your baby on the floor and not want to pick it up and hold it.  She murdered her baby.  the child was alive.  How twisted are we that it is ok for someone to pick up an infant and place it in a trash bag knowing it is alive.  This world is going to hell, no respect for life or God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care how young you are.  How can you see your baby on the floor and not want to pick it up and hold it.  She murdered her baby.  the child was alive.  How twisted are we that it is ok for someone to pick up an infant and place it in a trash bag knowing it is alive.  This world is going to hell, no respect for life or God.</p>
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		<title>By: What_the_heck</title>
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		<dc:creator>What_the_heck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems I&#039;m a little late to this party but hey what-the-heck ;) I&#039;ll comment anyway. Cat I am in full agreement with you! It is just mind boggling to me that a fully staffed clinic could let this happen. In the old days I can understand how as doctors back then were not required to have aids or nurses in the room with them during such procedures. Today though its a completely different story. Just goes to show you how scared nurses and other staff members are of the doctors and what reprisals may fall upon them.

As to your morbidity, I don&#039;t even want to ponder about the cardboard box...creepy....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems I&#8217;m a little late to this party but hey what-the-heck <img src='http://www.medhaps.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ll comment anyway. Cat I am in full agreement with you! It is just mind boggling to me that a fully staffed clinic could let this happen. In the old days I can understand how as doctors back then were not required to have aids or nurses in the room with them during such procedures. Today though its a completely different story. Just goes to show you how scared nurses and other staff members are of the doctors and what reprisals may fall upon them.</p>
<p>As to your morbidity, I don&#8217;t even want to ponder about the cardboard box&#8230;creepy&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh.  So many things wrong with this scenario.

OK, I can see him being late if he was dealing with another patient.  The staff at the clinic should&#039;ve been trained and prepared to handle any type of situation.  Who the hell has untrained/certified staff go into a patients room to do any thing medical?  I&#039;d be interested in knowing if any actions were taken against the clinic.  There&#039;s no way another doctor wasn&#039;t on call or available, especially at a clinic that deals with abortions.

I feel for the young woman.  Again, we are trained that if a sign on the door says MD they should know better.  Even if they don&#039;t have malpractice insurance.  Most of the general population isn&#039;t aware of the different certifications that a doctor needs to go through or what each one means.  So her researching all that probably didn&#039;t even cross her mind.  She may not have had the support of family or friends for this procedure so may not have went to anyone and gotten their opinions on the information he presented her. She was probably scared and wanted the situation taken care of as quickly as possible.  Besides the fact that when dealing with abortions you have a very limited time frame to make a decision so who would really be thinking about researching the doctor performing it?

My morbid side wants to know who had the cardboard box the whole time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh.  So many things wrong with this scenario.</p>
<p>OK, I can see him being late if he was dealing with another patient.  The staff at the clinic should&#8217;ve been trained and prepared to handle any type of situation.  Who the hell has untrained/certified staff go into a patients room to do any thing medical?  I&#8217;d be interested in knowing if any actions were taken against the clinic.  There&#8217;s no way another doctor wasn&#8217;t on call or available, especially at a clinic that deals with abortions.</p>
<p>I feel for the young woman.  Again, we are trained that if a sign on the door says MD they should know better.  Even if they don&#8217;t have malpractice insurance.  Most of the general population isn&#8217;t aware of the different certifications that a doctor needs to go through or what each one means.  So her researching all that probably didn&#8217;t even cross her mind.  She may not have had the support of family or friends for this procedure so may not have went to anyone and gotten their opinions on the information he presented her. She was probably scared and wanted the situation taken care of as quickly as possible.  Besides the fact that when dealing with abortions you have a very limited time frame to make a decision so who would really be thinking about researching the doctor performing it?</p>
<p>My morbid side wants to know who had the cardboard box the whole time&#8230;</p>
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